Plan B if there is a major delay with Red.

[Jag Sandhu]

If the Red delay is 6 months or more then I would need to put a plan B in place.

Plan A is very clear in my head.
Plan B is weak & not thought out, at the moment it is no better than sit & wait twiddling my thumbs. I think I need a better plan B.

I will hold my reservation for as long as Jim wants to build & sell the camera.

Anyone with a better plan B please share.

Jag

[Robert Sanders]

Yeah, we have an big feature film shoot schedule to start production August 1st. We're in the same boat.

We're already in massive "contingency" mode right now as it's not looking too promising to get our hands on units by our start date. We'd be willing to push our shoot dates a week or two, but my producer(s) won't budget beyond that.

So, we're looking a F900's, Vipers or an XLH1 connected to an AJA IO HD right now. Rentals on the bigger guns are WAY too high. And the DoF on the XLH1 sucks (as well as the noise floor).

So what to do?

[Laco Zamba]

My plan B: don't panic!

[Gbabymogul]

That's something i've been thinking about recently too. Plan B will probably be a wee bit more involved for me because we're seguing bizness stuff now anyway, so...Fortunately, i built in some lee way to a few projects i want to do with RED but the longer they're on an engineering hold, the more i'll have to rethink shooting with RED. They're non-conventional/shooting projects so it could get expensive to rent.

As long as RED doesn't get to be like Kinetta (don't think it will at all) then the hold should be cool.

If we're talking about a long hold then... look at renting 35mm, purchasing a used 35mm camera? I really can't justify purchasing an overpriced crappy HVX, or any other 1/3" camera when right around the corner is a 35mm sensor one.

RED is a business, so as long as they produce a great product in a decent timeline, then we'll wait as a customer. But, the project comes first. I'm excited to do more personal projects, so i hold them to a high standard. Regardless, cheerleading needs pragmatism to be a useful barometer

So, Plan B? Rent 35mm and/or marry rich. One is far more likely :)

btw, who said the hold would be a long one? I need some RED footy to keep me occupied.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgfrxZlrYR4

[Clayton Harper]

Yeah, we have an big feature film shoot schedule to start production August 1st. We're in the same boat.

We're already in massive "contingency" mode right now as it's not looking too promising to get our hands on units by our start date. We'd be willing to push our shoot dates a week or two, but my producer(s) won't budget beyond that.

So, we're looking a F900's, Vipers or an XLH1 connected to an AJA IO HD right now. Rentals on the bigger guns are WAY too high. And the DoF on the XLH1 sucks (as well as the noise floor).

So what to do?

I think Silicon Imaging's 2K is still preferable to the F900 or Viper if it comes down to it.

http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita.../products.html

There's also good old Super 16. Love me some Super 16. Go Super 16 and lay off to HDCAM-SR and do a poor man's DI when Apple ships Color. I have seen a good many low-budget films onlined at 1920X1080 and then printed back to film. Check out 12 and Holding directed by Michael Cuesta.

[Kevin Halverson]

I have a few plan B's in the works...

"offhollywood" I would love to learn about your 2 pref conversion experience. I have been lusting after the new Aaton Penelope ever since it was announced, but its delivery dates are also still a bit uncertain.

Perhaps it is time to look into plan C...

[Robert Sanders]

I think Silicon Imaging's 2K is still preferable to the F900 or Viper if it comes down to it.

http://www.siliconimaging.com/Digita.../products.html

There's also good old Super 16. Love me some Super 16. Go Super 16 and lay off to HDCAM-SR and do a poor man's DI when Apple ships Color. I have seen a good many low-budget films onlined at 1920X1080 and then printed back to film. Check out 12 and Holding directed by Michael Cuesta.

It didn't even occur to me to consider the SI2K. Thank you for that. We'll be looking into it first thing Monday morning.

[Mike Prevette]

Wow, I can't believe you guys would base your project around a piece of gear. I love the idea of the Red and all, but at the end of the day it is just another hammer in your belt. I know a ton of rental houses that will give you a killer deal on some super16 packages. They aren't shooting off the shelves right now.

_mike

[Rick Darge]

PLAN B: HVX + Brevis35


yum

[jaadgy akanni]

PLAN B: HVX + Brevis35


yum

Plan B: GY-HD200U + Brevis