I doubt Scarlet is a DSLR killer

[Michele Gavazzeni]

The killer producs are the two 2/3" SCARLETs...

it kills a lot of PANASONIC and SONY cameras.

[Carlos Echenique]

Wait..... this are all MF cameras! So should not be compared with SCARLETT but with the EPIC MF and at its pricepoint... maybe its not a killer... its not even intimidating.

SCARLETT FF35 can be compared with NIKON or CANON cameras

RED SCARLET and EPIC are Movie cameras that eventually can take single frame images.

No, because Canons and Nikons cannot achieve the stated level of DR (theoretical till proven) without resorting to HDR tricks. DMF cameras average 12 stops of DR and that is one of the features that set them apart from Canon and Nikon. Megapixels are not the reason fro going to DMF, dynamic range is.

[E.J. Sadler]

As the market currently exists it might not be a DSLR killer, but as more advertising and event coverage moves to online/on-demand/electronic delivery there will be a convergence of skill sets and people looking for the right camera to do the job. Since REDs raw workflow already destroys anything else in the HD market, all RED has to do on the still end is just not suck. If they are able to bring innovation in areas the others are slow to move in, or unable to move in due to hardware legacy issues, the RED could easily become the only camera to own.

We're already planning on it being that way.

[Nova Invicta]

Both Epic and Scarlett are currently "paper cameras" i.e. no one has actually tested them and proven there specification. The Canon 5D II is an actual product you can purchase today and footage from it has already appeared on the internet.
Once again people are suggesting mass defections from Sony or Panasonic when Scarlett arrives forgeting that the biggest purchasers of their products already have huge investments not only in the cameras but in accessories and lenses so they are hardly likely to abandon either. New customers potentially are the biggest group of customers which is exactly what has happened with Red One.

Canon and Nikon are NOT chained to past video technology and can quickly adapt to compete against Red with one huge advantage the distribution & service network they already have not to mention their intact reputations.

Red has not had direct competition thus far but by squaring up to Canon & Nikon it will certainly get some now.

[Jay K]

I think DSLR killer is the wrong term. DSLRs largely are consumer and professionals that don't require extremely high resolution and formats that commercial/enterprise/advertising photographers/media artists do.

Most DSLRS are under 10 000 $

This Red system strikes me (in the long run), from what I've read about it .. very ambigious reading too, I wish people would be more open in what the potential for these cameras *really* is.. as a kick in the arse for P1, Hasselblad, leaf MF systems.

I need to do more reading, maybe it is a change maybe it's not. Film is still around, and was never replaced by digital. Digital just provided easier, more efficent and cleaner workflow. On the other hand, look at how much money you need to dump into digital (35 mm) systems compared to what you did with film. Film is still used, too, and in some ways is still considered superior in terms of ruggedness and compatability, to most digital systems.

A friend of mine who works with NG (National Geographic) prefers to take a canon AE-1 rather than a 1D mark III on trips to places far out in the jungle, or the desert, or in any area where you can't recharge you batteries or rely on safely operating a laptop :D

old fashioned, but in some fields they still work.

I encourage and am behind new technology developments, I just wish they wouldn't use the term "killer" or "replacement" because it sounds so competitive, when really, it's all a tool battle. Not everyone can be a videographer, nor a photographer, theres technology to master and then concepts to work with. Let's not forget what these tools record - light, and without our ability to master that then no matter if you use a nikon coolpix or a 671 monstrium DSMC, your shooting is going to reflect.

[P Andersson]

I always loved how the Pentax 67 lenses behave for portraiture - a lot of studio guys use the Mamiya RZ - so to me the most interesting for stills is the 617 for the simple reason of the size of the sensor - if they make the lens attachments flexible enough to use whatever lens one wants

[Radoslav Karapetkov]

I see the 35mm Scarlet cams as DSLR killers in the case of people who need to use two cameras for their projects. For example - a Canon XHA1 video cam and a Canon DSLR cam. Or Nikon DSLR.

With the DSMC Scarlet, only one camera will be enough for such people. That will bite some of the DSLR sales.

But, for people who focus mainly on stills photography - probably not.

[Brian J.M. Rytel]

For anyone who has taken back-ground mats and spent a lot of time adding the proper gain and color/image adjustments to match the camera response will appreciate the ability to take both with the same camera and glass. Plus both can have the same processing applied in RedCine/RedAlert so they will match until the leave REDcode.

[oldphart]

... Film is still around, and was never replaced by digital. Digital just provided easier, more efficent and cleaner workflow. On the other hand, look at how much money you need to dump into digital (35 mm) systems compared to what you did with film.
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Eh - dump money into? That would be film, in my experience. The cost of my Super Chromega alone was a lot more in current money value than any computer system and printer. Digital cameras are dirt cheap compared to the Leicas Ms or Nikons Fs of yesteryear, once you compute the present value. When new, my first SLR, an Exacta II with the 20mm Zeiss Flektogon, cost about the same as a Mercedes Benz.

The amazing thing with RED is that their cameras are so incredibly cheap! That goes for every price range they have models in.

[David Rasberry]

Eh - dump money into? That would be film, in my experience. The cost of my Super Chromega alone was a lot more in current money value than any computer system and printer. Digital cameras are dirt cheap compared to the Leicas Ms or Nikons Fs of yesteryear, once you compute the present value. When new, my first SLR, an Exacta II with the 20mm Zeiss Flektogon, cost about the same as a Mercedes Benz.

The amazing thing with RED is that their cameras are so incredibly cheap! That goes for every price range they have models in.

I second that opinion. These are digital motion picture cameras and there has always been a significant cost delta between still and movie cameras. Scarlet/Epic will also be the first comprehensive line of professional digital cameras that can handle both roles seamlessly with equal image quality for motion or stills.