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  1. #1 Sensor Upgrade? - 5-6-9K is great and all - But, I'd like more d. range 
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    I think some people get higher resolution fevers, I wouldn't know what to do with 9k for example, my take is that if it looks fantastic on the largest of the big screens, its good enough for me, the current sensor in Red One gets us there (correct or not?). Its all about story and acting in my opinion. But personally I'd rather have the Red One get more Dynamic Range, and a little less noise in shadows. What can get the Red One closer to the 13+ stops, will it be a 6K sensor upgrade, which I doubt will even be a viable option, or will it be a REDCODE issue, or current Red Ones will have to be content with the current 10 stops?
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    I wonder what the specs of a FF35 sensor optimized for dynamic range first, ISO second, frame rates third and resolution (min 3K) as last priority would look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sotty View Post
    I think some people get higher resolution fevers, I wouldn't know what to do with 9k for example, my take is that if it looks fantastic on the largest of the big screens, its good enough for me, the current sensor in Red One gets us there (correct or not?). Its all about story and acting in my opinion. But personally I'd rather have the Red One get more Dynamic Range, and a little less noise in shadows. What can get the Red One closer to the 13+ stops, will it be a 6K sensor upgrade, which I doubt will even be a viable option, or will it be a REDCODE issue, or current Red Ones will have to be content with the current 10 stops?
    Sounds like the Monstro sensor is the answer.

    A lot of people have been talking about the FF35 as their "step up". Still shooting PL mount with 35mm lenses - which won't shoot the whole sensor.

    Based on this I think a lot of folks agree - a higher dynamic range at 4K (or 4.5K?) is going to be more useful than 6K or 9K or 28k!

    Or splurge and get both - lovin' the options.
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    Of course we all want greater dynamic range. Everyone is crying afould as if Red R&D is somehow sacrificing potential dynamic range for sensor size. The fact of the matter is (i say this with little knowledge of sensor manufacturing) that it is MUCH easier for sensor density to scale up than it is to increase dynamic range. Red is pushing their own technological limits to bring advancements in numerous subsystems across the board. And some things take more effort, enginuity, and cost than others. If what they are offering with the announced estimated increase in dynamic range comes to be, that is a very significant effort on their part and no small feat I think. But everybody constantly pointing out that the advancement in dynamic range is somehow being neglected at the expense of sensor density and is somehow a "fault" is just misdirected frustration. Especially when you don't know anything about the design and development process of these cameras. Take the timeframe into account on how Red is trying to get these products to market. It is very agressive, even for a large established economy.
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