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    Thank you for this post! Watch the whole class and enjoyed every minute of it. (till 4:30am this morning) Even though I knew 80% of the information, it was damn cool to see Robs application and workflow. I was wondering if you also got the ACES classes?
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    You're welcome Jamil! I'll check to see if I can find the Aces Class and post it if I can find it.
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    Jamil,

    I didn't see that specific one. However here are other great videos from "Cinematographers on cinematography"



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    Much better (but still sometimes bad) sound quality compared to Billy Williams episode. They must have learned their lesson from the day before!

    If there's one thing I wish these masters would drop, it's taking up time to talk about things that are now completely obsolete (like RED ONE). To me, if you have a whole set with actors, lights, and camera, you should get all the juice you can out of that, and not waste your time "Hollywooding" about what you did back in the day. Good for you and all that, but here we are, we know who you are, and we really want to know the best we can do with 2020 technology, not 2008 prototypes.

    Now, it's true that PRINCIPLES are important, and I myself have pointed out how the principles explained by Ansel Adams can apply to cinematography, but I wouldn't waste time talking about what a PITA it must have been to lug such a large camera a tripod to click a single image. That doesn't really teach and it's irrelevant to the principle.
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    Michael,

    Like you, I kinda always wanted to skip the Prologues and get right to the "Meat and Potatoes" of things. However, you need to know where they've been to understand how they got to where they are now. Most of the time the way they are presenting what they know is the same way that it was presented to them from their mentors. You have to know where things have been to know where they are going.


    I see so many people think that they can replicate the look and feel of some of the greatest cinematographers of our times work by just finding out what camera, lens and Lut they used. I think the history lessens are to tell new cinematographers that everthing isn't going to come easy. That doing the hard work and doing a little bit everyday for years to perfect your craft is what will make you as well as all of your future works great.

    So many want to be the next great cinematographer a few weeks after buying the camera and lenses they've read "so and so" and "such and such" used for their oscar nominated/winning film.


    I image one day you will be giving a Master class on Redlexa cameras( Years after Red buys the camera business from Arri because they can no longer compete) and you will be telling young cinematographers about the IPP2 and the legacy workflows of Red before the Arri camera business acquisition. You will telling them about the introduction of the first 8k "full frame" sensor Red and all they are going to want to hear about are the new "holographic" improvements in IPP9.

    So I learned to show the proper respect during the history lessons and to have patience that they will eventually get to the info you came and have been waiting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rand thompson View Post
    Roberto Schaefer: Lighting Masterclass



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    Is it really made in 2020? Some statement about cameras look so 2012.
    (DPX (what ever this could mean) not beeing a good format to color grade, but is prores better?)

    I loved to see a DP working with the team he has been given.
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    I don’t know about that, I’m fascinated by how things were done in the past, I’m always trying to mine ideas from something done 50 years ago... I also believe learning is a journey and it’s less about what’s current and more about the mental process and the experiences that have built one’s way of thinking.
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    David,

    When I listen to cinematographers whom have been doing this for decades(Like Billy Williams in another thread), I feel like I'm getting info from some lost vault of cinematic knowledge. Some of the much older cinematographers who are still "with us" are like conduits of information from across time from historic cinematographers from the pass whom I could never have had access to and all of their forgotten knowledge of cinema.
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    Rand,

    The videos you post are gold!! I'm about to watch your Vittorio Storaro master class you posted earlier!!
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