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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Hillis View Post
    Still not sure any other camera system is better at doing that.
    It's still the most flexible RAW format.

    https://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Ratg...nkt.html#Assim
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    Comparison of Mavo Edge's Pixel size with all of the other Full-FRAME Cinema Cameras

    However, I think the monstro is 40.96x21.60mm (46.31mm image circle) at DCI
    and Mavo Edge is 36x19 (40.7 mm image circle) in DCI and just 36x24 (43.3 image circle) in Open Gate


    so it would probably look closer like the relationship between the 3:2 sensor of the Venice against the Full frame DCI sensor of Monstro.


    http://phfx.com/tools/formatCompare/...&focalLengths=



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    Quote Originally Posted by rand thompson View Post
    Comparison of Mavo Edge's sensor size with all of the other Full-FRAME Cinema Cameras


    no, thats pixel area, not sensor size. The Mavo will have the exact with as the c500mkii or Venice, but it does have a little more top and bottom which would be great for anamorphic of times when you need to crop a tall video out of a horizontal (getting asked for more and more).

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    Paul,

    Yeah I check that out and had corrected it above. Yeah full-frame 2X anamorphic lenses will do great on a 8k 3:2 sensor but you will still have to crop for Anamorphic lenses meant for S35 sensors.
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    Also worth noting that you'd get a full 8k 16:9 (8192x4608), not 7680x4320 UHD that r3d ends up at.

    Personally I prefer physical sensor size to resolution, but the extra res does allow for some guilt-free ~6%+ "8k UHD" reframing or an extra ~6%+ downscale to "8k" UHD. And, yeah, 1.33x, 1.5x, 1.8x, 2x Anamorphics will have a field day with the extra vertical resolution of Mavo Edge.
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    Mike,

    Yeah I just starting thinking about what 2x full-frame Anamorphic lenses would look like on an 8k 3:2, 36x24 sensor. Unfortunately, there are not to many available

    like the Cooke Anamorphic /i full frame plus 1.8X

    https://cookeoptics.com/l/anamorphic...rame-plus.html

    Here the Cooke Anamorphic /i full frame plus 1.8X lens is shown with the full 3:2 sensor of the Sony Venice



    50mm Cooke /i Spherical & Anamorphic/i field of view test all cropped at 2.40 shot on Sony Venice showing studio interior direct light flare, exterior day extended focus pull and exterior night street light bokeh and focus pull all shot at T2.8.

    S7/i Full Frame (6k)
    S7/i punched in to s/35 (4k)
    Mini S4/i s/35 (4k)
    Panchro/i Classic s/35 (4k)
    Anamorphic/i 2x 4.3 Standard Anamorphic (4k)
    Anamorphic/i 1.8x Full Frame Anamorphic (6k)
    Anamorphic/i 1.8x punched into 4.4 Standard Anamorphic (4k).


    Scorpio 2X

    https://www.fdtimes.com/2018/10/19/s...orphic-primes/

    https://www.servicevision.es/en/prod...-anamorphic-2x


    here are 2 more example with the sony venice using its 6k 3:2 aspect again with Cooke Anamorphic /i full frame plus 1.8x anamorphic lens and the Scorpio 2x full frame anamorphic lens

    Cooke 1.8x



    Scorpio 2x


    FDtimes article about Sony Venice in 6k 3:2 mode with Scorpio 2x full frame anamorphic lens

    https://www.fdtimes.com/2018/10/19/s...orphic-primes/




    and a few more I probably missed.
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    Here's a link to some ProRes Raw test files for those who have a program like Final cut and adobe premiere with Prores Raw plugin for windows, just click on the text under the photos.



    https://filmplusgear.com/prores-raw-...load-nab-2018/

    Prores raw for windows
    https://support.apple.com/kb/DL2033?locale=en_US

    Compatible Applications
    • Adobe After Effects (Beta)
    • Adobe Media Encoder (Beta)
    • Adobe Premiere Pro (Beta)
    • Adobe Premiere Rush (Beta)
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    Trying out Assimilate Scratch 9.2 to play around with ProRes Raw files




    Here is the before and after


















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    Rand: what's your opinion on ProRes Raw & highlight recovery? Seems pretty good from the images you posted.
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    Carlos,

    I see it this way, I was able to bring back an image that "looked" overexposed. But in terms of ProRes I don't really know if the highlights were actually clipped. Let me turn on my laptop and in about 30 minutes I give you a Demo of what I mean.
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