Thread: Komodo 6K anamorphic settings?

Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14
  1. #1 Komodo 6K anamorphic settings? 
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    638
    What are likely aspect ratios, frame rates, and de-squeezed resolutions?

    • 1:1 ?
    • 4:3 ?
    • 5:4 ?
    • 6:5 ?
    • 9:8 ?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2  
    Senior Member Bastien Tribalat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Cannes area, France
    Posts
    724
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jim View Post
    What are likely aspect ratios, frame rates, and de-squeezed resolutions?

    • 1:1 ?
    • 4:3 ?
    • 5:4 ?
    • 6:5 ?
    • 9:8 ?
    Nothing has been confirmed yet apart the fact that anamorphic support will come via firmware update.
    For aspect ratio, I'm confident it'll be the same as what's available on DSMC2 since Komodo, even if it's not part of the DSMC2 lineup (and is not DSMC3 either), is suppoed to be able to easily integrate any workflow and shooting scenarios with those cameras. ;-)
    VIDEO EDITING - COLOR GRADING - VFX
    APPLE FINAL CUT PRO, AVID MEDIA COMPOSER
    ADOBE CREATIVE CLOUD, DAVINCI RESOLVE, REDCINE X PRO...
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3  
    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Jim View Post
    What are likely aspect ratios, frame rates, and de-squeezed resolutions?

    • 1:1 ?
    • 4:3 ?
    • 5:4 ?
    • 6:5 ?
    • 9:8 ?
    Im sure you can extract the info from the red r3d SDK Komodo is allready in there and should be possible to extract the compression ratios.
    Björn Benckert
    Creative Lead & Founder Syndicate Entertainment AB
    +46855524900 www.syndicate.se/axis
    VFX / Flame / Motion capture / Monstro
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    183
    If you mean "regular" anamorphic times 2, then it's 6:5 . For Komodo : Format/Res = 6K 6:5 = 3888x3240 - Aspect Ratio = 1.20:1 - Image Plane = 17.10x14.25mm (22.26mm image circle)
    http://phfx.com/tools/frameAndFocus/...mage%20circle)
    VERY handy site by one of reduser compatriots Phil Holland. You can check against other sensors for size http://phfx.com/tools/formatCompare/
    OR other useful things http://www.phfx.com/ ,very recommend.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5  
    Junior Member Trenton Massey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Location
    Phoenix, Arizona
    Posts
    18
    Agreed. I don't see why they would reinvent the wheel. It's likely to embody the same anamorphic features/functions as the DSMC2/DSMC3 cameras
    Trenton Massey
    Director of Photography, Camera Operator, Producer
    www.ambientskies.com
    trenton@ambientskies.com
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6  
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Stolpakov View Post
    If you mean "regular" anamorphic times 2, then it's 6:5 . For Komodo : Format/Res = 6K 6:5 = 3888x3240 - Aspect Ratio = 1.20:1 - Image Plane = 17.10x14.25mm (22.26mm image circle)
    Great to see that 6:5 is still above UHD resolution.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    638
    Thank you to everyone for replying.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    638
    from Phil Holland’s post at his Komodo Out in the Wild discussion thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    ...As for anamorphic generally this sensor inspires 2X and 1.3X mainly in my mind. Most people haven't figured out the larger format anamorphic optics explore things like 1.25X, 1.5X, and 1.8X. This is for many reasons, but it's mainly a practical limitation as well as focusing on the strengths of each format.

    For those unfamiliar with Anamoric Workflows, traditionally on wider aspect ratios you use a smaller nearly square-ish rectangular crop and then desqueezed the um... squeezed image. For instance on Monstro 8K 6:5 anamorphic 2X unsqueezes to a delightful 2.4:1. Using the full sensor at 2X nets a very extremely wide 3.79:1 ratio, which is madness, but hell this is sparta so kick with the sandals on and have some fun.

    Most people do truly think of 2X anamorphic when they "think" anamorphic and fortunately there's at least two fairly affordable options incoming on that front, but I can't really dive into that yet.

    1.3X however is interesting on the full sensor with a 2.53:1 ratio coming out of it, more likely practical is what 1.3X was truly designed for 16:9, which comes out to a ratio of 2.37:1
    ...
    Last edited by Billy Jim; 06-13-2020 at 08:49 AM.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Posts
    341
    Komodo the same aspect as dsmc2 sensors?

    2x anamorphic wasn’t too cool on Dsmc2 sensor. Aspect wise.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #10  
    Moderator Phil Holland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    11,674
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Dease View Post
    Komodo the same aspect as dsmc2 sensors?

    2x anamorphic wasn’t too cool on Dsmc2 sensor. Aspect wise.
    2X works exactly how it should. RED makes wider sensor digital cinema cameras, which is of value in a primarily wide screen 16x9 world full of about 99% of productions filming with spherical lenses.

    You extract from your given format your anamorphic frame. In the case of RED that is the 6:5 formats usually for a 2X anamorphic workflow to a standard 2.39:1 delivery.

    If you have a lens that covers the full sensor with 2X anamorphic you get a hilariously wide 3.79:1 ratio, which is um, not a cinema standard by a mile.

    There's constant back and forth whether it's better to have a taller sensor than not and usually you have lower frame rates going that route when using the added height and then there's users who never ever use the added height.

    There is one unique stand out. Gemini is the only sensor from RED that really seems to be hammer on the head a Super 35mm 4-perf direction.

    Not to cool versus working as intended is a wild dynamic! And this is from a fan of somebody filming anamorphic.
    Phil Holland - Cinematographer - Los Angeles
    ________________________________
    phfx.com IMDB
    PHFX | tools

    2X RED Monstro 8K VV Bodies and a lot of things to use with them.

    Data Sheets and Notes:
    Red Weapon/DSMC2
    Red Dragon
    Reply With Quote  
     

Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts