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    It's not a shutter thing, and no - we won't have to re-train our eyes.

    Only a shot on the running on the roof of the church has a shutter issue, looks like GoPro or some other similar crap camera.
    I doubt its a crap camera or a fault, guessing that scene involves quite a bit of retouch and a lot of camera move then normally a narrow shutter is used to get less motion blur to preserve detail for the VFX work, and then normally motion blur is added later / post comp in post. But Michael Bay is quite famous for keeping it tack sharp even when things get chaotic so I guess he liked it as is, or the CG guys would have crank it up a bit. Could also be a trailer thing... the trailers are usually pushed out in quite a rush, especially the VFX bits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    I doubt its a crap camera or a fault, guessing that scene involves quite a bit of retouch and a lot of camera move then normally a narrow shutter is used to get less motion blur to preserve detail for the VFX work, and then normally motion blur is added later / post comp in post. But Michael Bay is quite famous for keeping it tack sharp even when things get chaotic so I guess he liked it as is, or the CG guys would have crank it up a bit. Could also be a trailer thing... the trailers are usually pushed out in quite a rush, especially the VFX bits.

    The shot on the church roof running down behind the actor's back has shutter, texture, sharpness and compression artefacts like it's shot with a crap 8 bit h.264 action camera and further mollested in post so I'm sticking to the statement.
    As for "tack sharp"...he missed some tack sharp CU's in a trailer of a bazzillion dollar project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Simic View Post
    The shot on the roof from the actor's back has shutter, texture, sharpness and compression artefacts like it's shot with a crap h.264 action camera and further mollested in post so I'm sticking to the statement.
    I noticed that shot right away. Assumed it was GoPro or something.

    Too bad Michael Bay didn't have his Komodo yet :)
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    looks like GoPro or some other similar crap camera.

    Hrvoje,

    I just thought it was me just not being familiar with the look of the Sony Venice Camera's motion rendering aesthetics, which was used also along side the a Red Helium for this film. It would be kinda funny to know that some scenes did use something like a GoPro or similar camera with this film being considered one of Netflix's most expensive productions at about 150 million.


    "And while $90 million is a frightful amount of money to spend on a movie that is never destined for the box office, that money will pale in comparison to what Netflix is reportedly willing to spend on Michael Bay’s new film Six Underground. /Film reports that the upcoming Bay movie, which is set to star Ryan Reynolds and is based off a script by Deadpool writers Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, has a production budget in the region of $150 million. That could easily make it the most expensive non-cinematic release in history."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    I doubt its a crap camera or a fault, guessing that scene involves quite a bit of retouch and a lot of camera move then normally a narrow shutter is used to get less motion blur to preserve detail for the VFX work, and then normally motion blur is added later / post comp in post. But Michael Bay is quite famous for keeping it tack sharp even when things get chaotic so I guess he liked it as is, or the CG guys would have crank it up a bit. Could also be a trailer thing... the trailers are usually pushed out in quite a rush, especially the VFX bits.

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    I never knew that VFX work affected motion blur. I learned something new today, thanks!
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    I think my original comment stands best. It just looks digital, clean, sharp, lit. Not a fan of the aesthetic personally.
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    Hrvoje,

    I just thought it was me just not being familiar with the look of the Sony Venice Camera's motion rendering aesthetics, which was used also along side the a Red Helium for this film. It would be kinda funny to know that some scenes did use something like a GoPro or similar camera with this film being considered one of Netflix's most expensive productions at about 150 million.
    It is not uncommon for crap cameras to get sneaked in some specific shots, regardless of budget. And they mostly pass unnoticed because of edit, context and attention to action.

    They could have made a judgement call to keep budget and timing for other priorities. Minutes of fiddling on sets of these proportions and types of locations are expensive and second chances unlikely so time for rigging and testing alternative routes may be non-existent. Technically it may be flawed but production legitimate choice still. You either get it that way or not at all or mess up the shooting schedule attempting to force one shot.
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    Wow, amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Simic View Post
    It is not uncommon for crap cameras to get sneaked in some specific shots, regardless of budget. And they mostly pass unnoticed because of edit, context and attention to action.

    They could have made a judgement call to keep budget and timing for other priorities. Minutes of fiddling on sets of these proportions and types of locations are expensive and second chances unlikely so time for rigging and testing alternative routes may be non-existent. Technically it may be flawed but production legitimate choice still. You either get it that way or not at all or mess up the shooting schedule attempting to force one shot.
    Also, possibly they where never on that roof... and the VFX guys got a couple of days to hatch out something for the trailer. Rendered the CG with low sample motion blur...
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