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  1. #1 The Agony Of Choice - Vintage/Modern Lens Shootout 
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    It's finally here! Long nights and hours of screening are finally done!

    Marco Werner and I created a unique lens shootout between modern glass and famous vintage lenses, shot on our RED DSMC2 MONSTRO 8K VV camera.
    With the support of many friends and lens manufacturers, we had the possibility to test a lot of different lenses including some really special ones like the new GLASWERK ONE Anamorphics, the all new Canon Sumire Primes and many more. Our focus was not mainly set on Full Frame lenses, as we also wanted to check the sensor coverage of all the other amazing S35 lenses out there. We built a small set in our office to provide a constant lighting condition for each lens.

    Now, sit back and enjoy!


    The Agony Of Choice - Vintage/Modern Lens Shootout 4K



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReEyVnN0WV0&t=0s


    Tested Lenses:

    - TOKINA CINEMA VISTA
    - CANON SUMIRE PRIME
    - GLASWERK ONE Prototype
    - GLASWERK ONE + Prototype
    - LOMO SQUARE FRONT
    - P+S EVOLUTION
    - CLAVIUS LENSES (With 2X Oval Insert)
    - CLAVIUS LENSES
    - LEICA R
    - ZEISS OTUS
    - MAMIYA SEKOR C 645
    - CANON FD
    - NIKON AIS
    - SCHNEIDER XENON FF-PRIMES
    - ARRI ZEISS STANDARD SPEED
    - KOWA 16H
    - SIGMA FF


    Special thanks to:

    Billy Gropper
    Billy’s Lens Rent
    David Kellermann
    Viola Evang
    GLASWERK
    ABT cine
    Schneider Kreuznach
    Canon Germany
    Andreas Gschossmann
    Beech Studios
    Friedemann Leis
    Felix Baermann
    Patrick Vollmers
    Alex Förderer


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    http://www.framed.de
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    geile arbeit jungs, gefaellt mir, danke fuer den aufwand !
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    Vielen Dank nochmals, dass wir beim Shootout mit dabei sein konnten!
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    Very awesome and generous to share!
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    Thank you for this! A wonderful test. Can we be greedy and ask for a playlist of the music?

    I surprised myself by how much I like the Schneider Xenon flaring. Also found it interesting the extent to which on different makes of lenses the OOF lights are more round when in the middle of the frame but become more elliptical when the camera pans and puts them on the edge of frame.

    I'm looking forward to reading the feedback / opinions from others. My problem is that I want every lens and can never bring myself to sell any lens.
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    This is awesome and super helpful. Huge thank you.
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    just can’t go wrong with a Helios

    Still love me a standard speed

    If it’s not a k35 and it’s made by canon it’s still boring

    Sigma keeps the crown for the cleanest/ sharpest / most clinical

    I like the evolutions more than I thought I would, nice job they did re-creating the kowas
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    Quote Originally Posted by John David Pope View Post
    Thank you for this! A wonderful test. Can we be greedy and ask for a playlist of the music?

    I surprised myself by how much I like the Schneider Xenon flaring. Also found it interesting the extent to which on different makes of lenses the OOF lights are more round when in the middle of the frame but become more elliptical when the camera pans and puts them on the edge of frame.

    I'm looking forward to reading the feedback / opinions from others. My problem is that I want every lens and can never bring myself to sell any lens.
    Music is all from Artlist, Stranger Things Collection:
    https://artlist.io/collection/10340/stranger-list

    I was also really surprised by the Schneider Xenon, they are a bit different compared to most other flares.
    And they are pretty cheap as well!
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    Daniel,

    Is it possible to output and upload a 4K version of your tests? When it comes to judging lenses 1920x1080 is not really sufficient and with most serious (money) projects requiring a 4K master I believe it is best to judge glass at 4K where you can see so much more nuance. The heavy YouTube compression also makes it hard but not sure what the answer is for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Gleeson View Post
    Daniel,

    Is it possible to output and upload a 4K version of your tests? When it comes to judging lenses 1920x1080 is not really sufficient and with most serious (money) projects requiring a 4K master I believe it is best to judge glass at 4K where you can see so much more nuance. The heavy YouTube compression also makes it hard but not sure what the answer is for that.
    Tom,

    When I watched it, it was in 4K. Make sure you're not experiencing one of those weird issues like how chrome on mac doesn't like to show 4K on YouTube or whatever those weird little issue are. But, yeah, on my PC I watched it all in 4k and it looks really great. While a high mbps master would be great, the 4K YouTube version works perfectly well to gauge almost all of the qualities of these lenses IMO.
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