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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Williams View Post
    Jim,

    The bet was about the majority of major Studio features with a budget over 50 million being shot digitaly AND released in the first half 2011.

    Films that use a mix of film & digital or are purchased by the studios don't count.

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    Do you bet that this will happen before, in 2011 or after 2011?

    BTW: The cinema operators organisation in north america estimate 2011/12 to be the crossing line, when mechanical projection will be the minority. IMAX will be there much sooner it seems, as they plan to completly change from mechanics to digital before 2011.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by laguun View Post
    Do you bet that this will happen before, in 2011 or after 2011?

    BTW: The cinema operators organisation in north america estimate 2011/12 to be the crossing line, when mechanical projection will be the minority. IMAX will be there much sooner it seems, as they plan to completly change from mechanics to digital before 2011.
    Hi,

    The bet is about Major Studio features shot 100% Digitally. (Epic being the ultimate film slayer) My bet is it won't happen by the first half of 2011

    As you know many films shot on 35mm go through a DI so are suitable for digital projection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Leprechaun View Post
    Epic a Phantom Killer?

    EPIC will be the new masta weapon of the Ghost Busters.

    Who you gonna call?

    :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Williams View Post
    Hi,

    The bet is about Major Studio features shot 100% Digitally. (Epic being the ultimate film slayer) My bet is it won't happen by the first half of 2011

    As you know many films shot on 35mm go through a DI so are suitable for digital projection.

    Stephen
    A lot of new, unforeseeable developments will occur before 2011 that will alter the movie-making and movie-projection technologies.

    It is possible that RED may become de-facto standard in Hollywood by 2011.
    It is possible that by 2011, Celluloid film will not be used in movie-making or movie-projection.

    A lot will depend on what Sony and other Hollywood powers do in the next few years.
     

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    I always thought that a switch to digital projection would be more difficult than a switch to digital acquisition. Even now, as a function of %, there are only a miniscule amount of digital theaters.

    I think that theatre owners have little incentive to switch out 100k film projectors to digital ones. Remember, they don't pay for the prints, so they wouldn't see much savings.

    It has been suggested that the distributors would need to somehow share the savings with the theaters to get them to switch.

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    Hi Chris & Lawerence
    It's been suggested a major shift away from theatricial exhibition
    is in the works anyway. By 2011 we could see many hollywood movies FREE, available for download on the internet with sponsors like Coke, Nike, you name it. Three years is a very long time in the film industry these days.
    One things for sure, what films are shot/shown on in the future will become less
    of an issue and finding an audience the main consideration.
    Mezmo
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanneSFE View Post
    Go for it Tom!

    If you go by the very scientific method of how big data flow will be, and factor in the "genius billionaire" variable, I'll bet the Epic'll handle 2500 fps @ HD720, thus beating the crap out of the Phantom :)
    Of course there's always the new Phantom V12.1, which will go to nearly 7000fps at 1280x720, with a sensor size at that frame rate that is as big as 35mm and an ISO of about 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    Just to go on record... we have a great deal of respect for the Phantom. We didn't start this thread. And while we are guilty of poking fun at "others" every once in awhile... never at Vision Research. I love that these guys were brave and built something important to the industry. You will never hear a bad word from RED about the Phantom.

    If the "bet" was somehow connected to them, I need to read all the posts... which I haven't done. I thought the bet was a cast-over from another board and not related to the Phantom.

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    ..but Epic is better looking. The phantom's looks like they came from 1960. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Williams View Post
    Hi,

    The bet is about Major Studio features shot 100% Digitally. (Epic being the ultimate film slayer) My bet is it won't happen by the first half of 2011

    As you know many films shot on 35mm go through a DI so are suitable for digital projection.

    Stephen
    Stephen... I think that this question/bet even comes up is a miracle. Wasn't long ago we were a less than 2K scam. Now the bet is whether or not our "film alternative" will contribute to a 2011 "digital take-over". Interesting indeed.

    I think it will be a close call, but I'd put my money on "yes". Who is the judge?

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