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    I am wondering if RED has considered manufacturing Vanadium Redox batteries to replace the Lithium Ion style batteries as they seem far superior in terms of cycle charging, life expectancy and they don't explode like Lithium batteries?
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    I would naturally think that at least one of the many knowledgable people at RED would have some information on Vanadium batteries? Anyone care to add their two cents worth?
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    I'm 100% certain that if RED was developing something along these lines they wouldn't discuss it until it's close to release.
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    Oh of course thanks Phil that didn't occur to me. I was excited to read about this new tech and just wanted some reassurance that it has potential for the future given how problematic lithium ion batteries are in regard to travel.
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    It holds a lot of potential. I suspect something similar could be part of our future, but more likely something lighter weight and more compact will be destined for our cameras. All depends on who builds a bigggggg factory and focuses on the obvious answer :)
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    Ross, unfortunately power density is the main problem currently.

    Current production vanadium redox batteries achieve a specific energy of about 20 Wh/kg (72 kJ/kg) of electrolyte. More recent research at UNSW indicates that the use of precipitation inhibitors can increase the density to about 35 Wh/kg (126 kJ/kg), with even higher densities made possible by controlling the electrolyte temperature. This specific energy is quite low compared to other rechargeable battery types (e.g., lead–acid, 30–40 Wh/kg (108–144 kJ/kg); and lithium ion, 80–200 Wh/kg (288–720 kJ/kg)).
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    Interesting evolution of technologies
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