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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Bydlon View Post
    Movi mobile Looks like a match made in heaven with the RH1. *pending the iOS only at launch

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    This looks really cool, but I'm wondering: will RED design and sell something similar that we can buy to complement our phone cameras?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christina Ouillette View Post
    This looks really cool, but I'm wondering: will RED design and sell something similar that we can buy to complement our phone cameras?
    If they don't I'm pretty sure a number of very competent 3rd party developers of hardware and software will "Dog pile" in onto that space or any gaps that are left on the table. There are a number of firms out there (even on US soil) that really get and understand RED's design philosophy and build quality (and then some). In terms of accessories and systems that are high quality can indeed be developed to compliment what will be set in motion. With the eventual possibility of half a million to a million HYDROGENS being out there (in the not too distant future, step by step) then that naturally attracts and creates a whole new useful ecosystem in of its self to flourish. It's a question of whether smaller groups that have particular expertise in more specialized areas (and are really good and extremely focused at what they do) are able to further contribute to such an ecosystem. In some cases RED will certainly want to develop their own accessories but on the other hand if HYDROGEN (platform) really takes off they (RED) may not be able to do absolutely everything. Some things can be developed as stand alone accessories and other things may have to be developed with the auspices of RED and possibly other licensing agreements etc. If what RED has done in the field of cinematics is anything to go by the HYDROGEN 'Space" could be very exciting indeed in terms of diversity quality and capability of associated products and accessories. + general "Kick-ass factor" :-) ... and "Raw" capability that's being offered here.


    Overall it's a careful balance between "Control" over your product ecosystem (for the sake of quality and user experience and support) vs. what freedoms may be given to 3rd party developers; initially and then over the long term. I think that RED over time will perhaps relax the reins a bit as HYDROGEN grows and progresses as a platform, but as is there is still a ton of really excellent things that can be done almost immediately. It may be in the future there might be a RED "Approved" set or list of 3rd party products and accessories if things really take off (that's pure speculation on my part). In other industries that certainly happens especially when things really explode and start to become really big and in essence (in totality) almost dwarf any one single company by comparison.

    I certainly understand the importance of the RED brand and everything it stands for and how that translates to the physical article in hand. @Christina O I get where you are coming from on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur BARRETT View Post
    I backed the Rigiet last year on kickstarter - and it's sitting here on my desk. The mount will easily fit the RH1. Works with Android and iPhone. There have been a lot of complaints about the software though - but the hardware is great, and I think the software will catch up. The lot of the functions advertised by the 'Move' are really more about the software than the hardware, though I do like their hardware design... Their web site is down at the moment so here are the links to the kickstarter, Android App, and iPhone app.
    I wouldn't trust a company that can't keep a website online, that's just basic business. For every reliable product / company another twenty are created that cannot compare. Yes the world has 50+ gimbals but Freefly has arguably the best hardware, software and customer experience. That's worth it alone in a hyper fast tech world.

    *I'm also not saying Freefly is the only option but I would only maybe consider three companies out of the 50+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Lange View Post
    I agree; for under $300. But I wonder if a more precise and slightly more robust version of stabilizing/motion hardware and software would the ticket for RH1/HYDROGEN + modules?

    Totally agree about Disneyland + those capturing the Disney experience.

    I have to hand it to Disney 100% they have kept the flame burning for S-3d (stereo 3d cinematic applications/presentations/permanent displays) no matter what, whether S-3d has gone in and out of fashion in various ways over the decades.

    Definitely LEIA/HYDROGEN probably will be embedded into a substantial number of exhibits at Disney, I have no doubt and else where.



    @Russ F, totally agree, that might be nice... Who has the rights for Holo-Grumpy Cat ? Could be truly epic, immersive and very very grumpy.
    I would agree a larger system like the Freefly M5 or DJI Ronin M3 will be more robust for modules but for a truly mobile experience those gimbals are too big. You could have a RH1, MoviGo (or whatever they call it) Dji Mavic in a daypack and still have room for laptop, harddrive, chargers and so on. No one would have any idea you have that kit on your person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christina Ouillette View Post
    This looks really cool, but I'm wondering: will RED design and sell something similar that we can buy to complement our phone cameras?
    Interesting thought. Since RED has not moved into that segment for its robust camera line I wouldn't anticipate them jumping into the stabilization game for mobile but I've certainly been wrong before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Bydlon View Post
    I wouldn't trust a company that can't keep a website online, that's just basic business. For every reliable product / company another twenty are created that cannot compare. Yes the world has 50+ gimbals but Freefly has arguably the best hardware, software and customer experience. That's worth it alone in a hyper fast tech world.

    *I'm also not saying Freefly is the only option but I would only maybe consider three companies out of the 50+
    As they say ... "The market will decide".

    I know there are a lot of jokes about "Kick-starter" , but these guys Rigiet say they are based in Connecticut and came out of Yale and HIT. So it seems they are US based and they are trying to bring something new and useful on US soil. [Will be interesting to see where they plan to manufacture/first runs].

    RE: websites its very challenging to bring something new and useful as a first set of products to be launched that you then advertise in advance; i.e. your competitors can basically "Steal" with their eyes the best of what you have to offer before you even get off the ground. In some cases for a completely new set of products it's better to have virtually zero web presence until you have completely launched. The day before you didn't exist and "Today" appearing out of nowhere is a pretty fully fledged launched set of systems and products that are well tested and supported. Sometimes if you are a "Small fish" you have to lurk in the shadows and small crevices so you don't get instantly chomped (or squashed like a bug... and other badly mixed metaphors concerning giant predators and "snack like" quarry) . So any fledgling company that is doing the kickstarter thing is going to have significant challenges.

    So I say live and let live and not necessarily smother everything in the nest before it can gain traction... lol.

    But I agree it's important that users and consumers understand the real technical capability and quality of what they are investing in.

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    On a completely separate note I have to admit I'm really looking forward to how HYDROGEN will be punked , cyber punked and "Hacked" (legally) to do all kinds of truly insane yet amazing things... I am hoping the price point vs. capability of HYDROGEN will unleash an insane amount of creativity and things that you would never in a million years think of.

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    With the release of the Snapdragon 845 coming up in devices in early 2018, I hope we get this in the Hydrogen. It has a new image processing unit that supports 4K HDR, moves from 8-bit to 10-bit color, and expands the color gamut from Rec 709 to Rec 2020. While I'm sure RED had some great image processing up their sleeve for their modules, it would be fantastic to have these new improvements natively implemented in the camera and silicon of the built in camera.

    Of course, there are tons of other improvements besides just the image processing pipeline.

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    Maby this movi could be a great companion to the hydrogen!
    http://gomovi.com/

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    I would be down wait for the extra production time for this to be implemented into hydrogen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Wright View Post
    With the release of the Snapdragon 845 coming up in devices in early 2018, I hope we get this in the Hydrogen. It has a new image processing unit that supports 4K HDR, moves from 8-bit to 10-bit color, and expands the color gamut from Rec 709 to Rec 2020. While I'm sure RED had some great image processing up their sleeve for their modules, it would be fantastic to have these new improvements natively implemented in the camera and silicon of the built in camera.

    Of course, there are tons of other improvements besides just the image processing pipeline.

    https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/06/...napdragon-845/
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    https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...10&oe=5ACBC91B

    Courtesy of Christopher Bell over on the Facebook Hydrogen One User Group....
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