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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew R Lewis View Post
    You are specifically referencing shooting video for stills, right?
    Nope, stills. Using stills mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakesh Malik View Post
    Nope, stills. Using stills mode.
    Cool, thanks.

    What shutter speed do you like with those settings but going handheld?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakesh Malik View Post
    When I'm shooting stills, I use 3:1 and drop the frame rate to 13fps. The shutter speed depends on the shoot; for portraits on sticks I use 1/100th of a second.


    I pretty much shoot with these settings but use 11fps and get 2:1 compression. Really really enjoying the Heliums for stills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew R Lewis View Post
    Cool, thanks.

    What shutter speed do you like with those settings but going handheld?
    I haven't tried hand held with it yet, mostly because I don't have a particularly good way to operate hand held -- I'll probably at some point acquire a DSMC2 side handle for that purpose, though. For these portraits I used 1/100th of a second, but they were on a tripod.

    Other than that, my settings were similar to Brody's; I'm only able to get 3:1 compression though, my guess is due to currently not having any of the faster minimags (just 120GB mags right now).

    That said, I'm with you Brody... stills with this camera rock. And will only get better with IPP2, since it will make post so much easier.

    I'm hoping that Affinity and On1 will add R3D stills support to their raw processing software... I've exporting PSDs from RCXPro so that I could do the final editing in On1 Photo Raw or Affinity Photo, which makes the workflow less pleasant than with my Sony a7r, for which I can use On1 Photo Raw for rating images and most of my editing needs, and Affinity for stuff that On1 can't do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakesh Malik View Post
    I haven't tried hand held with it yet, mostly because I don't have a particularly good way to operate hand held -- I'll probably at some point acquire a DSMC2 side handle for that purpose, though. For these portraits I used 1/100th of a second, but they were on a tripod.

    Other than that, my settings were similar to Brody's; I'm only able to get 3:1 compression though, my guess is due to currently not having any of the faster minimags (just 120GB mags right now).

    That said, I'm with you Brody... stills with this camera rock. And will only get better with IPP2, since it will make post so much easier.

    I'm hoping that Affinity and On1 will add R3D stills support to their raw processing software... I've exporting PSDs from RCXPro so that I could do the final editing in On1 Photo Raw or Affinity Photo, which makes the workflow less pleasant than with my Sony a7r, for which I can use On1 Photo Raw for rating images and most of my editing needs, and Affinity for stuff that On1 can't do.
    Thanks! I have the new sidehandle and it's great for quickly making adjustments on the fly especially going handheld. I'm going to set one of the user assignable buttons to switch straight to stills mode with those settings so I don't get caught off guard for good photo ops. I'm also about to take delivery of the new EVF on Tuesday, hoping that is a good tool for stills as well. Do you have any ideas for a good shoulder strap solution? It's one of the main pain points I have in trying to use my Epic-W more for stills.

    I've never used either of those editing tools, I'm a photoshop guy. But as a new guy to stills I'm open. Thanks for your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew R Lewis View Post
    Thanks! I have the new sidehandle and it's great for quickly making adjustments on the fly especially going handheld. I'm going to set one of the user assignable buttons to switch straight to stills mode with those settings so I don't get caught off guard for good photo ops. I'm also about to take delivery of the new EVF on Tuesday, hoping that is a good tool for stills as well. Do you have any ideas for a good shoulder strap solution? It's one of the main pain points I have in trying to use my Epic-W more for stills.
    For shoulder straps, I recommend looking at Peak Design's offerings. Best I've seen yet, even better than Black Rapid, which is quite good.

    I'm probably going to add a side handle as well as get some Sigma Art zooms (SLR versions) for travel and adventure photography/filmmaking. The Zeiss CP.2s are great lenses, but they're bulky and heavy, and with 3 of them + some batteries, my 30L pack is nearly full, which is not ideal for more than short hikes and trips to set.

    I've never used either of those editing tools, I'm a photoshop guy. But as a new guy to stills I'm open. Thanks for your help!
    Once you try them, you probably won't want to go back. Affinity Photo has a lot of Photoshop in it conceptually, but instead of trying to be a jack of all trades like Photoshop is, it is just a photo editing application, and very inexpensive. On1 is also just for photos, and allows me to do a lot of what Photoshop does, but far more efficiently and without bothering with Photoshop.

    They both support the medium format digital raw formats, so I'm hoping R3D stills are on their list... I've put requests in for both, but there aren't that many people using Epic-W for still photography yet, so I'm guessing that the demand for R3D still support is currently low. Still, I'm hoping. Epic-W stills look even better than Sony A7R stills...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakesh Malik View Post

    I'm hoping that Affinity and On1 will add R3D stills support to their raw processing software... I've exporting PSDs from RCXPro so that I could do the final editing in On1 Photo Raw or Affinity Photo, which makes the workflow less pleasant than with my Sony a7r, for which I can use On1 Photo Raw for rating images and most of my editing needs, and Affinity for stuff that On1 can't do.
    Totally... Can't wait for more photo apps to start allowing R3D use, kinda the next step in the progression of this tech. I am really enjoying the Video/Snapshot photo work flow. Twice now I have had a client prefer a frame next to the one I triggered over the actual triggered snapshot/photo/marker/what every you want to call it. Being able to search for a similar frame that was near my triggered points is just great. This photo system is as basic, and and as thick as you want it to be. Totally digging it. BTW you gotta get that side handle, paired with a slim Battery, or battery belt with expander module I can hold this thing all day just like my old mk3, it quickly begins to feel natural.
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    Ya, eventually... I need to make money first -- preferably before I end up with another soul-sucking IT contract.

    I also need bigger media cards, the 120's aren't ideal for backcountry trips. The HyperCore Slims are sweet though; I'm hoping to get two more at some point, as well as some Sigma Art zoom lenses for their compactness. Much better for climbing trips...
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    Hey guys,
    I am coming from a video background but I am super intrigued by the concept/reality of grabbing high quality photo's from my videos. I read about being able to capture 35MP photo's from the RED...but that's in stills mode at the lowest compression correct? If I were to shoot video in 8K at the lowest possible compression (6:1 I think?) at 24FPS. What is each Frame's MP? That's one of my concerns.
    I believe I have an understanding of the Pro's and Con's of using Stills mode vs Video but if I have 2 Epic-W's, 1 shooting in video mode the other in stills mode with the same settings, is the difference in quality noticeable(when printed or otherwise)? Is there a shutter speed that I should always shoot above? 24FPS 1/48 at minimum? Everything seems to make sense for this photo from your video to take off on paper but I don't see it EVERYWHERE like I would expect to see it (Maybe I don't know where to look?). I have run my own tests but I cannot see differences really. Can I shoot video and deliver high quality photography(in print) as well? Do any of you?
    Whats your experience capturing photo's from your RED's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derrick Peachey View Post
    Hey guys,
    I am coming from a video background but I am super intrigued by the concept/reality of grabbing high quality photo's from my videos. I read about being able to capture 35MP photo's from the RED...but that's in stills mode at the lowest compression correct? If I were to shoot video in 8K at the lowest possible compression (6:1 I think?) at 24FPS. What is each Frame's MP? That's one of my concerns.
    I believe I have an understanding of the Pro's and Con's of using Stills mode vs Video but if I have 2 Epic-W's, 1 shooting in video mode the other in stills mode with the same settings, is the difference in quality noticeable(when printed or otherwise)? Is there a shutter speed that I should always shoot above? 24FPS 1/48 at minimum? Everything seems to make sense for this photo from your video to take off on paper but I don't see it EVERYWHERE like I would expect to see it (Maybe I don't know where to look?). I have run my own tests but I cannot see differences really. Can I shoot video and deliver high quality photography(in print) as well? Do any of you?
    Whats your experience capturing photo's from your RED's?
    We pull stills all the time, but mostly for Web, not print.

    Works great, even on Dragon sensor.

    I'm sure Helium and 8K are even more versatile.

    To combine print and video, consider shooting video in slowmo, as the faster shutter speed from high speed sharpens the motion blur and makes pulling stills easier.
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