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    Hehe, look at all those cables driving the display. Nice prototype. I'm ready to buy once it's under the $3K price point and only takes one or two cables to drive it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kilgroe View Post
    Hehe, look at all those cables driving the display. Nice prototype. I'm ready to buy once it's under the $3K price point and only takes one or two cables to drive it.
    It's hard to make a $3000 10-bit HD monitor that can be calibrated and look good enough to be used professionally. I'm not convinced that'll be enough for 4K, let alone for 8K. You can wind up getting a really great data monitor that doesn't show you real pictures.
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    It's hard to make a $3000 10-bit HD monitor that can be calibrated and look good enough to be used professionally. I'm not convinced that'll be enough for 4K, let alone for 8K. You can wind up getting a really great data monitor that doesn't show you real pictures.
    I bought this the other day... 12bit in/processing and 10bit display. It´s better than most screens... actually it´s better than any screen I ever seen, that includes the Dolby and sony lower res / smaller professional screens. And as I understand it will sell for less than 3000USD before christmas.

    And the oled tech is not really that difficult to upscale, simply make the screens 4 times the size of this one is very much within range an I think we will see that quite soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    I bought this the other day... 12bit in/processing and 10bit display. It´s better than most screens... actually it´s better than any screen I ever seen, that includes the Dolby and sony lower res / smaller professional screens. And as I understand it will sell for less than 3000USD before christmas.
    How was it calibrated? Can you post the calibration details?
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    How was it calibrated? Can you post the calibration details?
    This is a B6 post-calibration (20pt). This was found on another forum (avsforum).







    Btw, there is one people who pre ordered a Barco Thor on this forum, and there is a entire section devoted to ultra high end gear when people discuss about their 20k+$ gear minimum. For reference, Thor is a 6p laser home theater projector costing about what...400K$.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wielage View Post
    How was it calibrated? Can you post the calibration details?
    As of now I don't have it calibrated. I Just hooked it up to the trashcan HDMI, which I hacked the bios on so it does 10bit 25p UHD. There is a rec709 and rec2020 profile for the LG screen and this week I will try to see how well I can calibrate it with my i1display probe. simply run i1display ontop of those profiles and create and adjustment profile and then compound them to get a, in OSx profile that is actually calibrated.

    But I also ordered these which will come in a week or so.
    the 12bit Ultrastudio 4k: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/pro...diothunderbolt
    and the 12G sdi to HDMI lutbox from teranex https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/teranexmini

    That according to the guys at BM will give me a good calibrated 12bit signal all the way to the processor of the screen.

    Regarding the artifacts in the blacks. I think that was 2015 LG screens. The screens that came out late this summer should be different. But I can see errors in the blacks in a pitch black room if I bring up the "oled lights" setting to the max. But at a 50 out of 100 setting then the screen is freaky black in the black. I'm not joking it's like turned of black, and when looking at a gradient there where no clipping into that black.

    As I understand these LG's do 700nits. it's not much in comparison, but as I see it it's a lot considering their deep blacks.

    Possibly there are better screens, more accurate, higher nits etc. But for me this beats all that I seen before. 65" and UHD is a good combo as I see it. I have the screen about 1.7m away from my face above my cinema display and to me no 2k or HD screen can compare, especially in that size. I will hate to do HD work from now on, as in comparision it really feels like 320x280 or such.

    Now LG will announce next years screens very soon and my guess is even greater range, more accuracy etc. As all the bullshit sales things like curved, not curved, 3D etc is all played out already. So the next trend I think will be different certificates for color accuracy, range and so on. Which is already started to happen with UHD Premium, Dolby Vision and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    I bought this the other day... 12bit in/processing and 10bit display. It´s better than most screens... actually it´s better than any screen I ever seen, that includes the Dolby and sony lower res / smaller professional screens. And as I understand it will sell for less than 3000USD before christmas.

    And the oled tech is not really that difficult to upscale, simply make the screens 4 times the size of this one is very much within range an I think we will see that quite soon.
    LG OLED screens are pretty much the standard screens now used by many TV and monitor manufacturers. Yes, you can pick 55" up for less than $3k. Unfortunately, all these monitors display nasty black artifacts, that really not a deal breaker for the home use, but still pretty poor display for the professional use. Also, apparently in HDR mode the brightness goes down to around 700 nits after only about 500 hours. Said that, Panasonic uses the very same screen on their professional unit 65CZ950, but it cost around $11K. They spent a lot of time working on the black artifact issue and it is much better, than standard LG TV. Apparently there is an even newer Panasonic model now, but it just came out and there is not that much info on it. I suspect in about a year, you may be able to finally buy a proper OLED Panasonic monitor suitable for grading, hopefully for around $5K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake blackstone View Post
    LG OLED screens are pretty much the standard screens now used by many TV and monitor manufacturers. Yes, you can pick 55" up for less than $3k. Unfortunately, all these monitors display nasty black artifacts, that really not a deal breaker for the home use, but still pretty poor display for the professional use. Also, apparently in HDR mode the brightness goes down to around 700 nits after only about 500 hours. Said that, Panasonic uses the very same screen on their professional unit 65CZ950, but it cost around $11K. They spent a lot of time working on the black artifact issue and it is much better, than standard LG TV. Apparently there is an even newer Panasonic model now, but it just came out and there is not that much info on it. I suspect in about a year, you may be able to finally buy a proper OLED Panasonic monitor suitable for grading, hopefully for around $5K.


    I think you speak about the 2015 LG OLEDs, not the 2016 LG OLEDs, but I coud be wrong. Moreover, lifetime is greatly improved from the 2015 sets, becoming a non-issue (dunno about brightness btw, never heard that !). I've seen a lot of tests on the new LGs, and on very specialised website with very deep test and they all conclude they are pretty awesome.
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    8K is cool but it's overkill for consuming general entertainment content, sitting back and watching a show from a reasonable distance. 8K is for art, special projects, video walls, cool wow kind of stuff. Shooting it makes sense for me however better stills, future proof content, reframing, over sampling etc. I just don't see Hollywood jumping to 8K releases anytime soon and it will be a while before Best Buy pulls down all the 4K screens in favor of 8K. Where 8K could be really cool is for the use of wide or strange formats, like really wide video screens (8:1 or better) in public or trade shows, or tiling 4 UHD screens with out the need to use 4 cameras. All kinds of creative uses out there I'm sure.
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