Thread: Red Shark Article on Helium 8K S35

Reply to Thread
Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst 1234
Results 31 to 39 of 39
  1. #31  
    Senior Member Patrick Tresch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Switzerland, Lausanne
    Posts
    5,164
    Quote Originally Posted by Kemalettin Sert View Post
    Usual people yes because they are poor cant afford ana glass, hollywood movies big is a no no.Can you say anamorphic movies is 100 to 1 in hollywood? Please just look at Arri and tell me why they are shipping Alexa Mini with 4:3 sensor instead of making 2 different line like 16:9 and 4:3 ?

    +1 RED is talking about format choice but doensn't listen to people wanting to have the flexibility to shoot x2 ana. Pana DXL is not an option for 99.9% of the shooter out there that will use a RED camera. Give us a 8k 18.6x24.89mm (wich is the playground for all 35mm motion picture formats) Helium sensor and there is no need to go with Arri for what ever production.

    Pat

    PS: Nice post Nick, thanks a lot.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #32  
    Senior Member Nick Morrison's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    8,828
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tresch View Post
    +
    PS: Nice post Nick, thanks a lot.
    Thanks Patrick very much. Really appreciate that!
    Nick Morrison
    Founder, Director & Lead Creative
    // SMALL GIANT //
    smallgiant.tv
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #33  
    Senior Member ignition's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Victoria, Australia
    Posts
    226
    Great article Nick, probably my first compulsive RedShark click without the email even fully loading ;)
    ahh love that opening image caption, a complex world requires complex imaging .... so true, I think I'll adopt that as my go-to saying when questioned on quoting to shoot on Weapon
    Cheers,

    Darren Vukasinovic | Ignition Pictures
    Melbourne, Victoria - Australia
    RED Weapon 6K CF Dragon #00702 "Ripley"
    RT Mk 3.1 Motion Wireless FF, Bolt Pro 2000 Wireless TX/RX + Bolt Sidekick, Bright Tangerine Strummer DNA MB
    Camera Equipment Hire, Crew & Production Support, Dragon Aerial Cinematography
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #34  
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    While your views on wealth and how it ties to anamorphic production doesn't actually "mean" anything, the simple answer is there are much, much more spherical productions than anamorphic. Yes, even here in Hollywood.

    The question in the perspective here is would you like a sensor that produces more advantages for spherical shoots or is weighted for anamorphic shoots. And in this case 2X optimized.

    RED literally has solutions for all of that and it's on display rather clearly with PV's intentions and method with the DXL as well as some of the other folks who are going Dragon 8K VV.

    And just to throw a bigger stick into the fire. Yes, a 1.9:1 or even 1.78:1 sensor is more ideal for 2X, 1.3X, and 1.25X as well as spherical.

    Again, I'll leave it on the stipulation of "who knows, maybe RED will make a taller Helium" (you know like they did with Dragon).
    To me even if shooting for 1:2.41 I think if the camera could do 1:1 or such would be optimal even for spherical lenses. I mean better to crop in post than be sorry it was cropped in camera. I see a not so distant future where we make sure to record everything that goes trough the lens and possibly a little bit more. It simply does not make sense to trust the camera operator to make the perfect framing if it´s possible to shoot and have a complete capture of what the lens used actually sees and then let the framing be metadata. And as it seams that the hurdle of making good sensors that are bigger than S35 is already something of the past I think such tactics is not too far away. A round sensor would make most sense, as there is not too many square lenses... :)
    Björn Benckert
    Creative Lead & Founder Syndicate Entertainment AB
    +46855524900 www.syndicate.se/axis
    VFX / Flame / Motion capture / Monstro
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #35  
    Senior Member Elsie N's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    6,658
    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    To me even if shooting for 1:2.41 I think if the camera could do 1:1 or such would be optimal even for spherical lenses. I mean better to crop in post than be sorry it was cropped in camera. I see a not so distant future where we make sure to record everything that goes trough the lens and possibly a little bit more. It simply does not make sense to trust the camera operator to make the perfect framing if it´s possible to shoot and have a complete capture of what the lens used actually sees and then let the framing be metadata. And as it seams that the hurdle of making good sensors that are bigger than S35 is already something of the past I think such tactics is not too far away. A round sensor would make most sense, as there is not too many square lenses... :)
    Or as sensors are becoming amenable to specialization, how about an anamorphic sensor for use with a spherical lens? '-)

    Otherwise, a multi-lens camera may be the answer to recording everything in a scene. With one like that you could almost do away with the camera operator.
    One camera is a shoot...but four (or more'-) Hydrogens is a prohhhh-duction... Elsie the Wraith
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #36  
    Senior Member Steve Sherrick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    7,094
    Quote Originally Posted by Kemalettin Sert View Post
    Usual people yes because they are poor cant afford ana glass, hollywood movies big is a no no.Can you say anamorphic movies is 100 to 1 in hollywood? Please just look at Arri and tell me why they are shipping Alexa Mini with 4:3 sensor instead of making 2 different line like 16:9 and 4:3 ?
    I don't think this is accurate at all. Budget doesn't always dictate this decision. Just worked on a Tier 1 feature that shot anamorphic. Any of us can make deals and get anamorphic glass. Depends on relationships and if it's appropriate for the production.
    Steve Sherrick
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #37  
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    377
    Quote Originally Posted by David Battistella View Post
    Just getting the sensor names straight.

    RED ONE M
    RED ONE MX
    EPIC MX
    EPIC DRAGON
    WEAPON DRAGON
    WEAPON HELIUM

    Yes?
    David
    No. :P

    Red One MX and EPIC MX use the same sensor. Same for Dragon and Weapon

    M
    MX
    Dragon
    Helium
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #38  
    Thank you for the informative article.


    I am getting lost.
    What is Epic W ?
    Jonas

    Showreel
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #39  
    Senior Member Nick Morrison's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    8,828
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas Rejman View Post
    Thank you for the informative article.


    I am getting lost.
    What is Epic W ?
    Epic-W is a new camera, that is Helium powered. We don't know the specs yet.
    Nick Morrison
    Founder, Director & Lead Creative
    // SMALL GIANT //
    smallgiant.tv
    Reply With Quote  
     

Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts