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    or what its worth, i've noticed they mention the codec still in their specs for red raven. the fact they still mention it is a good thing in my books.
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    covering 100 inch to sides of buildings with walk by fine resolutions is more a projection thing for a number of years, plus nothing to wear out or break on the side of the building.
    How about stackable led panels, 8k display shown at NAB 2016....
    http://www.planar.com/news/2016/4/18...l-at-nab-2016/


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    I agree Michael, when the price comes down even a roll on plastic might be more affordable. There is a problem with pannels and cabling it, getting a usable signal and charge to go across a big area and reliability of a roll on to weather and sun. It can be done. A projector cheaply does this. We get cinned that a projector must be more expensive then a more costly and costly to make display.

    I've just been eyeing 500 inch long touch walls last week. Incredible stuff, I could have a bunch of kids playing a game on something like that against each other for advertising. Brings a whole new meaning to arena sports.

    I should have a look at the wiring behind my local casino's stadium led panel screen, big thing in the country when put in. I am interested in seeing a THX or Dolby Digital screen in the new Casino. If only the projector had been on time I could have diverted some into.the casino's.
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    Being someone who is always trying to connect the dots, I'm wondering if .RED doesn't somehow have a connection with what Jim is involved in. There was simply no good reason to allow such an efficient codec to be marginalized, so I'm wondering if they (RED Jim) decided it has more potential as a virtual/augmented reality component?

    If true, this may signify that a laser projector in the traditional sense is no longer a RED priority.
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    Itbwas marginalized for no good reason I think. When they crowed they were going to do this service and in theatre. I said it wasn't going to be so likely. As you have to license copyrighted content under arduous terms that competitors might not like you getting a better deal, if at all, and not to effect their competition. The content maybe exclusive. Apple had a large problem doing it's own licensing. Now all these companies have their hands in the pie, they dont want real competition to come and wipe down profits. So, I knew it was going to harder to achieve adequately. If you there is a blockage, it is a good target for anti trust, so far the looses must be billions, tens of millions long term.

    It was wrong and wrong headed. It should have been released as a free viewer refined for PC hardware, with a sponsor/advertiser channel. The content creation and serving are charged for. Manufacturers are eventually charged to include it on their products. The user used the normal internet to access Red's and partner film bases, including indie productions by people here. Implementation time, probably, several years ago, present profit tens of millions maybe. At the moment, given the history, Netflix, Google etc, are ones to license to. But, if they don't play ball, and open market of hundreds of small firms in order to compete with Netflix etc, effectively forcing them into licensing it.

    The other side of the equation, most laser displays are scanning systems, there was research and a law change to drastically bring the power level down due to increased issue when used in a scanning system. I had identified this as a pontential issue year's before and and brought it up in the industry. Anyway, I think their system is scanning, it disappeared quickly afterwards. I have a easier solution for that but nobody is interested, and that is hundreds of millions of net profit down the drain already.

    Now, the codec for VR. I design new codec systems, and I can definitely say that there are a type of codec that could help in vr.

    Just watching a stream redray will help, using it in a 3D structure is possible, a point cloud I don't know. Interactively, my mind has closed down since I started writing, so have forgotten the answer.

    We will see what they actually are planning.
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    As for redray, did they buy into a local laser display hardware project? There were severe restrictions applied to certain types of laser display technique at the time, I know how to resolve. I had been concerned about this since looking into doing a scanning laser projector system early last decade. I realized all the safety figures were fud for this type of system. Anybody that considers how laser surgery tools work, and previous theories in science, realise that materials respond to certain frequencies in resonance and pulsing can increase damage at lower power than individual delivery. Our eye color structures are tuned to the frequencies being delivered. I saw that the figures would be a lot lower and the research came in that they were. Fortunately I figured some good solutions to raise the maximum output to normal levels
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    Hold it, that is virtually 100% what I would write, because that is everything I dud too, and I think I did write something like that Are you quoting me Igor?

    Now, to answer. No they did not buy into it, expecting them to make contact is unlikely. I'll tell you what, there are companies that would give up all the money and go broke rather than contact. Guess what, you let them go broke. Appears this project is shut down. But the ability to overcome the limitations us thete, waiting to help out.
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    OK, that is from a post of mine in this thread. Rather tied, didn't pickup the reference to a local laser project over their rather than here. Sorry. The point of your post Igor?
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