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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Gross View Post
    For purchase in the US you can go to www.zgc.com.
    Thanks-

    I just checked their pricing and each lens comes in at $2,700, and the 85mm is $3,100- I wonder if they reversed the way the lens focuses? I couldn't find any notes saying such on their site.... If they still focus the "wrong" way, then this would make any sense to me- especially since I can get the complete set of lenses for around $2500 from Redrockmicro ...
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    They still focus the wrong way. As Mitch said before the didn't rehouse the optics, they just put a "Puffier" body around the old one. IMHO a waste of money, but they look cool.
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    Get Birger EF mount and Leica-R-to-EF adapter.

    Buy some new Leica-R or vintage and you'll be safe.

    BTW all Leica's focus the "cine" way.

    Color matched and accurate measures feet and meter.

    Excellent metal housing and smoothness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Prevette View Post
    They still focus the wrong way. As Mitch said before the didn't rehouse the optics, they just put a "Puffier" body around the old one. IMHO a waste of money, but they look cool.
    Yep- just to get a "cool" look, and the standard cine pitch gear, that is a waste of money- especially when you can get the gears from redrock....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    Get Birger EF mount and Leica-R-to-EF adapter.

    Buy some new Leica-R or vintage and you'll be safe.

    BTW all Leica's focus the "cine" way.

    Color matched and accurate measures feet and meter.

    Excellent metal housing and smoothness.

    Leica's high-performance lenses are all made, by hand,

    at Leica's main factory in Solms near Wetzlar, Germany.

    Guaranteed outstanding Leica picture quality.
    Great suggestion- sounds like a good way to go. Solms, huh? I'll have to make a stop by there the next time I come by. I love that German design and engineering. :)
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    Btw, Abel sells the Zeiss ZF lenses as well.
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    ZGC definitely sells at a premium for the services they offer. Abel offers them, BHphoto offers them, and of course we (Redrock) have a version that includes our film pitch lens gearing zeiss lenses as well. Lots of options to find exactly what you need.


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    Hello,

    I just wanted to thank you for the thread, Mr Walters. I went over to B&H on Monday with my RED and tested out a few of the lenses. Decided to go with the Makro-Planar 100mm T2 ZF ($1,582) and the Planar 50mm T1.4 ZF ($517). I'll probably go back next month and get the wide angle 35mm F2 as well.

    These lenses are _fantastic_. Haven't had the proper test yet, but we walked about the East Village in NYC for a few hours just testing different light conditions and were terribly impressed.

    Bring on build 16!

    Thanks again for the review.

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    "Scheduled to begin production in the first quarter of 2009, the documentary Walking Through Worlds (www.walkingthroughworlds.com) will take director Joel McEwen and I to remote locations in Asia, and being able to use the SLR lenses on the RED may enable us to get the images we need for the production while keeping down the form factor and weight."
    Very interesting thread and very good work on the tests.so what lens set will you be taking on your documentary? Does the mechanical function difficulties with the stills lenses mean you wouldn't use them on such a production?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mick doyle View Post
    Very interesting thread and very good work on the tests.so what lens set will you be taking on your documentary? Does the mechanical function difficulties with the stills lenses mean you wouldn't use them on such a production?

    thanks
    Thanks, glad it was helpful to you.

    In regards to what lenses I'll be taking with me- I'm going to take the SLR lens due to their compact and light weight nature. I'll be filling out the collection I have with the rest of the lens set, and then I need to find a wide angle (wider then 21mm) and a couple of long lenses (200mm or 300mm range). The tough part there is finding lenses that will match the Zeiss- I may have to go the Leica route to get a complete set of matched lenses in the ranges that I want, so we'll see what happens. But as for the wrong way of the lens movement, I've been looking into getting an idler gear for my follow focus- once I do that it will solve that issue. (But if I went with the Leica lenses, that would also solve the issue, from what it sounds like.)

    Anyway- all that to say, I was comfortable enough with the SLR lenses to use them on the documentary. :)
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