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  1. #1 Epic is the Ultimate "Film Slayer".... IF 
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    It seems to me that Epic is the perfect storm to finally put chemical film out to pasture, in much the same way that high-end DSLRs did over the last few years for stills. It will shoot a "real" 4K, RAW, s35mm, cine glass, overcranking onboard, solid-state or harddrive recording, etc.

    The ONE THING Epic needs to do in order to fulfill it's destiny, though, is match (or come close to) chemical film's dynamic range. Aside from nostalgia, DR is really the last leg film is standing on right now, IMO.

    Similar to Clinton '92's precept "It's the economy, stupid," the Epic team should have a poster on the wall reading, "It's the dynamic range, stupid." :weight_lift:

    With a sensor upgrade next year, I think Red One will do the same.
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    Yes!!!
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    It's not the pixels, honey, it's the dynamic range.

    :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by karapetkov View Post
    It's not the pixels, honey, it's the dynamic range.

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    Yep. :)
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    OK RED will have 5K D-Camera named EPIC

    wait a min.......

    Ikegami and NHK had a 7K UHD camera back in 5 years ago.

    STRL , a research Labs under NHK.

    I was there 5 years ago as a witness of this Camera born.

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    So Tom,

    You say that most movies from the past century won't hold up at even 1080p.

    Does that mean that their real resolution is actually lower than 1080p?
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    I'd agree with Tom on the old film resolution front.

    As for Epic, there are a few things I think the camera "needs" in order to be a "film killer" [man I hate that term].
    • Dynamic range well in excess of 11 stops.
    • Higher sensitivity/lower noise, particularly in tungsten-lit conditions.
    • A completely redesigned camera body.

    Resolution? Pff. The RED already out-resolves just about every film stock as is. Going to 5K almost seems like overkill... particularly if I pay for sensitivity as a result of the smaller pixels.

    That said, the Mysterium sensor design is probably three years old at this point. I'm sure a lot has changed. Just look at the D3's sensor!

    Anyway, those are my three big hopes. I wouldn't mind a four-perf sensor, but I'd be willing to bet it's too late in the game for that. I just love the irony of a camera named "Epic" that can't take proper advantage of anamorphic lenses. :)
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    Also the post workflow will really need to be simple and bullet-proof in order to truly cause a stir.

    Noah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brook Willard View Post
    A completely redesigned camera body.
    How so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brook Willard View Post
    A completely redesigned camera body.
    LOL! I don't see how that will work but I feel you man!
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