Red Ray

[David Wyatt]

I vaguely remember reading recently about people putting Hi-Def footage onto regular DVDs and then the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD (r.i.p.) crowd got a bit upset at their big outlay...

[Steven-Marc C.]

I vaguely remember reading recently about people putting Hi-Def footage onto regular DVDs and then the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD (r.i.p.) crowd got a bit upset at their big outlay...

Well sure, you can do that today with any H264 codec or DivX, and there are many compatible DVD players with a Sigma Designs chip out there that will read these DivX HD files on regular DVDs. But here we're talking 4K, and hopefully a better codec.

I was following NME's HD-VMD development, which also seemed very interesting from a technological point of view. They also use red laser, but with new multi-layer discs. They were trying to go against Bluray and HD-DVD. But they don't have a burner available unfortunately. www.nmeinc.com

[Stuart English]

I was following NME's HD-VMD development, which seemed very interesting from a technological point of view. They also use red laser, but with multi-layer discs.

Or you use an existing (hence low cost) media and work out the math so that the information you need to represent fits onto that media.

We were told we could not do that (4K REDCODE RAW to CF cards) :matrix: that is the logic again with RED-RAY (4K to DVD-9)

[Gunleik Groven]

What misses in the RedRay equation is panels and projectors... Hm... :)

And the ability to "compress" RGB to "REDRAW" (because it isn't "RAW") after post.

Guess noone thought of that... :)

[Steven-Marc C.]

Stuart, you have all my attention! :)

This could become very interesting (understatement) for indie theatrical digital distribution, as more and more screens get equipped with 2K/4K projectors.

[Michael Brennan]

Red Ray is indeed a very important development.

Red Ray may do to distribution what Red One is doing to acquisition.
Scarlet may do to HDV/P2 what HDV did to Digibeta


Like many others who have suggested ideas involving both products some time back, I'm impressed that Red are listening.


But which end of 2009?




Mike Brennan

[Steven-Marc C.]

Or you use an existing (hence low cost) media and work out the math so that the information you need to represent fits onto that media.

We were told we could not do that (4K REDCODE RAW to CF cards) :matrix: that is the logic again with RED-RAY (4K to DVD-9)

Ok, just to play devil's advocate: By the time Red Ray actually ships (early 2009) Blu Ray burners and media will probably have become much more standard and affordable. 25 GB BD-R are already fairly cheap. Why not also use that higher capacity to your advantage in order to offer less compressed options? Licensing costs?

[Luke Boyce]

I posted this in another thread but wanted to pose the question here: Right now, to me, this is the biggest announcement at NAB. I just feel this is going to be huge. But my question is...What's the point in having something that can output 4k media if you don't have anything that can playback 4k? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you've got $50k to spend on a Sony projector, you're kind of shit-out-of-luck.

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Ok, just to play devil's advocate: By the time Red Ray actually ships (early 2009) Blu Ray burners and media will probably have become much more standard and affordable. 25 GB BD-R are already fairly cheap. Why not also use that higher capacity to your advantage in order to offer less compressed options? Licensing costs?

Sony?

[Justin K Phillips]

4k projectors/TVs/monitors may not be commonplace yet, but in the meantime Red Ray can output 1080p and 720p. Then, when you finally do get a 4k display, you can rewatch everything for a whole new experience. I suspect, barring a surprise RED Display announcement, Red Ray will serve its first few years primarily as a downscaling (!) DVD player.