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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    Wait. I just spent 50 bucks! Heh.

    LOL!

    I was waiting to see a reply on that one.

    I guess I will wait till tomorrow ;)
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    Just did a quick test from RCX Pro using the Miraizon Prores on Win7. When opening in Resolve, the clip is gamma is wrong. The blacks are interpreted correctly, but the gamma is too bright.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danai Chutinaton View Post
    Just did a quick test from RCX Pro using the Miraizon Prores on Win7. When opening in Resolve, the clip is gamma is wrong. The blacks are interpreted correctly, but the gamma is too bright.
    Just a guess, but I think RCX on Mac uses a specially tweaked way of writing QuickTimes to try and avoid gamma issues. Maybe on Windows it is seeing the Miraizon codec as a standard RGB codec, and the familiar problems are occurring.

    For anybody who is interested in reading an in-depth technical discussion of QuickTime gamma and other issues I thoroughly recommend this article.
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    https://www.shootonline.com/spw/assi...-native-prores

    Assimilate is the first - this is legit - APPLE certified - Windows based ProRes encoding.

    You can just guess who else will announce soon heading into NAB :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark L. Pederson View Post
    https://www.shootonline.com/spw/assi...-native-prores

    Assimilate is the first - this is legit - APPLE certified - Windows based ProRes encoding.

    You can just guess who else will announce soon heading into NAB :)
    Unprecedented? What a bunch of BS! I was able to do this over two years ago on FilmMaster running on Windows:-)
    And before you ask, yes, it was Apple certified,not Ffpeg reverse engineered implementation, you could write any flavor of Prores and to boot, there was no gamma shift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake blackstone View Post
    What a bunch of BS! I was able to do this over two years ago on FilmMaster running on Windows:-)
    And before you ask, yes, it was Apple certified,not Ffpeg reverse engineered implementation, you could write any flavor of Prores and to boot, there was no gamma shift.
    Yep. Been using the FFMPEG solution for some time. A couple studios have compiled their own tools as well.

    At the moment this was $50 well spent as it gets me ProRes support in Redcine-X and Adobe Media Encoder. I tend to deliver DPX from Resolve, but hopefully all of this becomes a "non issue" in 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    Yep. Been using the FFMPEG solution for some time. A couple studios have compiled their own tools as well.

    At the moment this was $50 well spent as it gets me ProRes support in Redcine-X and Adobe Media Encoder. I tend to deliver DPX from Resolve, but hopefully all of this becomes a "non issue" in 2014.
    A bunch of companies had been using Ffmpeg for Prores writing on Windows and Linux. As I said, Nucoda had first official Apple Prores implementation over two years ago. The distinction may be little moot now, but I hear, that Apple may implement some kind of legitimacy checking, preventing Prores created with Ffmpeg from playing back on a Mac...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake blackstone View Post
    but I hear, that Apple may implement some kind of legitimacy checking, preventing Prores created with Ffmpeg from playing back on a Mac...
    If they do this I hope they get the professional backlash actions like this would merit.

    Apple is a good company. To this day I am not sure why they are holding out on ProRes support, even for a nominal fee, on Windows. It's a codec that the industry likes to use for broadcast deliverables and proxies. Why not give the people what they want.

    Once again, my suggestion stands. Include it in the Quicktime Pro purchase price and offering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jake blackstone View Post
    Unprecedented? What a bunch of BS! I was able to do this over two years ago on FilmMaster running on Windows:-)
    And before you ask, yes, it was Apple certified,not Ffpeg reverse engineered implementation, you could write any flavor of Prores and to boot, there was no gamma shift.
    Very cool about FilmMaster - didn't know that :)

    What I do know is - I am currently rendering Dragon 6K to ProRes with a full debayer - faster than realtime - on a Windows machine :)

    It's also not much of a stretch to assume we will see legit, certified ProRes encoding on Windows via Adobe & Resolve, etc. - imminently :)

    I also suspect that Miraizon already has a cease and desist letter. Get the $50 goodies while you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark L. Pederson View Post
    https://www.shootonline.com/spw/assi...-native-prores

    Assimilate is the first - this is legit - APPLE certified - Windows based ProRes encoding.

    You can just guess who else will announce soon heading into NAB :)
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