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    What compression are people running generally? At 6K? 5K? For lotsa light and low light? For no VFX and for VFX. I've heard fairly high (12:1 etc) compressions working really well for some situations, but I'd love to hear what people have had success with.
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    I did some green screen tests yesterday, 7:1 seemed Good, it's down to how picky you are, I would have said the same with 5:1 on MX.
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    I've been shooting at whatever the lowest compression available is for the combination of resolution/aspect ration and FPS.
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    At 6K formats I'm using 5:1-8:1. Though I'm finding 8:1 is pretty nice for most shooting conditions. REDCODE works a bit different on Dragon compared to Mysterium-X.

    I'm testing the new OLPF at the moment and I may have more to say on this matter after 6pm today :) Initially though that's my wheelhouse for standard shooting.
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    I shot my feature at 5.5K with 6:1 unless it was high speed (obviously)

    At 100fps the compression with regular sized SSDs it is 17:1 at 6K and on MX I would be worried but it appeared devoid of artifacts even projected at 4K at IBC...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    At 6K formats I'm using 5:1-8:1.
    At lower Dragon resolutions (5K), would you go lower or higher on the compression? Everything else being equal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by George A. View Post
    At lower Dragon resolutions (5K), would you go lower or higher on the compression? Everything else being equal...
    Generally speaking yes. Of course if you are shooting high speed you have to use the REDCODE compression ratio offered for your targeted rate.

    If I was shooting 5K I'd likely be shooting 5:1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    At 6K formats I'm using 5:1-8:1. Though I'm finding 8:1 is pretty nice for most shooting conditions. REDCODE works a bit different on Dragon compared to Mysterium-X.

    I'm testing the new OLPF at the moment and I may have more to say on this matter after 6pm today :) Initially though that's my wheelhouse for standard shooting.
    Good to know 8:1 is working so well! My army of 128 cards won't last very long at 5:1.

    At 8:1, a 128 will last almost 30mins at 6K HD. Which ain't bad!
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    I'm a 5:1 guy. I like 3:1/4:1 for super high detail shots and very, very low light.
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    While you could definitely get away with higher Redcode settings in most situations, with Dragon, I simply prefer to stay at the lowest Redcode allowed on chosen Frame Rate...

    Storage is cheap, and since I pull frames for print form every single shoot, I prefer to have the most detail allowed form any given shoot.

    Other then that you could easily get away with 8:1 no problem, with 5:1 for the most detailed scenes, and FX shots.
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