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    imo:
    ISO 1000 looks great, but ISO 4000 shadows/midtones don't look so hot.
    But of course I reserve my final judgement until a better calibration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias Hutter View Post
    imo:
    ISO 1000 looks great, but ISO 4000 shadows/midtones don't look so hot.
    But of course I reserve my final judgement until a better calibration.
    Perhaps true (not that I think so), but just image what 35mm film at 4000 ISO would
    look like.

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    Ok, I gotta say this. I've kept my mouth shut but this is really bugging me now. This new stuff from Dragon is being shown without new color science, not much grading except for pushed saturation and some curve adjustment. Folks who keep saying this looks like 35 film are really a bit delusional in my opinion. I am sure Dragon will produce deeper colors eventually, but there's no possible way you can look at this stuff, even the with the lovely darker complected skin depicted here, and compare it to 35. I don't care what Vimeo did, compression, whatever. Take a look at North Face, or Revolutionary Road, and say it with a straight face. Come on.
    Dragon will be awesome, but I see little point having any conversation about footage of any kind until Red have gotten the color science and filtering done. I can't really understand why they're allowing the testing to be done and shown like this, quite frankly.
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    The Dragon footage looks BETTER than 35mm film, and I'm sure if you ran it through a post process
    like Film Convert you could make it look like film.
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    If there's still tweaking to be done and that's what ISO 4K is at right now. That's insanely awesome.

    Guess RED were a bit conservative when they said ISO 2K, seems like some people maybe ok using ISO 4K, especially after some good post processing it'll be very useable, at least I think so...
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    Evan,

    I really appreciate you posting all of this and the time it took. I just shot 36 hours on Dragon and sadly just handed Jarred back his camera. I was mainly interested in skin tones ( happy results) and also to see about the DR. I am impressed by the smoothness of the range of the new sensor. People will really notice how flipping the histogram from RG3 to Raw doesn't show a dramatic change. It is now much harder to make those goalposts light up.

    I have yet to process the 9 setups I did through RCX. But I think people will be pleased..... Thanks again for your efforts and time giving back to this forum
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    Thanks Evin, I'm def impressed by the skin tones DR and low light. The thing I'm most impressed by and the thing that was my first impression was the feel of it, the images have a great, i wanna say natural/organic feel to them.
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    Thanks Evin, great images!
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    Your welcome guys. Peter I'm excited to see what you were able to shoot with it, I can see we have similar taste in lenses ;)
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    Thanks a lot Evin for taking the time and the detailed information.
    I certainly have to watch it again.
    Very nice work, and --yes-- it makes me want a Dragon right now ;o)
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